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Vista SP1 Soon

Monday, 11 February 2008 16:05 by jordan.terrell

**** Update (02/15/2008 09:03 AM CT) ****

Vista SP1 is on MSDN as well.


**** Update (02/14/2008 02:51 PM CT) ****

I'm now able to download Vista SP1 from TechNet.  I don't yet see it on MSDN, but still, this is great news.  Thanks for listening Microsoft!!!


**** Update (02/13/2008 02:21 PM CT) ****

Looks like we might get Vista SP1 this week!


**** Update (02/12/2008 01:43 PM CT) ****

While looking at the comments on the latest update from the Windows Vista blog, it appears that the MSDN/TechNet community is still not pleased with the change in Vista SP1 availability.  I can't say that I disagree with this response.  According to Slashdot, people are turning to pirate sources for a copy of SP1.  Now, I can only imagine that tons of problems could come from this - the obvious being viruses/trojans.  All of this has to be worse than a few drivers that are not ready for prime time.  Food for thought...



Well, it looks like Microsoft got the message and today posted an update on the availability of Vista SP1.  Looks like those of us who have MSDN and TechNet subscriptions should be getting it sometime "later this month".  This is certainly better than having to wait until mid-March - however, it is a bit vague as to exactly when we will be able to download the service pack.  After all, "later this month" could be February 29 (leap year).

I'm hoping we will see it sometime this week.  Regardless, thanks for listening Microsoft!

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What Were They Thinking - Follow Up

Monday, 11 February 2008 09:44 by jordan.terrell

Well, I just checked and as far as I can tell we still can't download Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1).  This just baffles me to no end.  I'm also surprised that I don't see more community pressure to get this released now.  Most of the feedback I've seen has come in the form of comments on the main blog post that announced the RTM status of the service pack.

I want to quickly revisit the whole driver incompatibility issue with Vista SP1.  If indeed the service pack is now complete (Released to Manufacturing), it would make sense that Microsoft could not change anything within it without publishing a revision, for example "SP1a".  So what is the difference between releasing SP1 now, versus releasing it in a month and a half?  It should still be the same bits, correct?  Only the drivers that have issues need to be changed, and again, those only affect a small subset of the Vista community.

I'm eager to receive the service pack for two reasons - 1) I'm working on a project which deals with installing a kiosk-mode application of a XP or Vista system.  We are just now adding support for Vista, and are targeting a release in the next few months.  It makes no sense to go through intensive testing on pre-SP1 Vista, when ultimately we will have to move to Vista SP1. 2) I purchased two copies of Vista Ultimate - one for my desktop and one for my laptop.  I've had a few challenges with the Vista that I'm hoping will work itself out with the service pack.  I've only upgraded my laptop to Vista, and my desktop is in desperate need of a fresh install.  I want to start that fresh install WITH Vista SP1.

From the looks of it though, that won't be happening any time soon.  Maybe you can write a blog post on this - let us and Microsoft know why they should release this now!

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What Were They Thinking... Or Were They Thinking...

Thursday, 7 February 2008 10:52 by jordan.terrell

I'm referring to Microsoft and their decision to announce, but not release, Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1).

Honestly, I can't understand the reasoning behind this decision.  As many have noted on blog posts and comments, it is entirely reasonable and responsible to not release Vista SP1 automatically via Windows Update.  But from what I understand, the purpose of MSDN, TechNet, Connect, and various partner channels is to identify a subset of Microsoft's partners and customers and allow them to prepare for the broad release of key software packages, such as operating system service packs.  Even today we see Windows Server 2008 Datacenter, Enterprise, and Standard editions available on MSDN - even though these have not officially launched. Why not Vista SP1?

Now, I can appreciate that there is some trepidation around certain device drivers not being functional with the release of Vista SP1, but it appears that it affects only a small population of users. I don't see this as justification for preventing a much larger population of IT professionals and software vendors for gaining access to such a critical release.

If Microsoft offers a more compelling, reasonable explanation behind this decision, I'm all for supporting it.  But until that happens or I see Vista SP1 on one of the various official download channels in the next 10 days or so, all I can say is this:

Bad call Microsoft, bad call!

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